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Re: Target Termination Rules
- To: Mailing List Recipients <pci-sig-request@znyx.com>
- Subject: Re: Target Termination Rules
- From: Tom Hicks <thicks@fore.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:42:59 -0500 (EST)
- In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961125091737.2033A-100000@tardis-a1> from "Christian Huter" at Nov 25, 96 11:44:56 am
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> I don't see why I have to stick to target termination signaling
> rule 3 (PCI Spec. v2.1, p.42), when I signal a disconnect and
> the master has its IRDY# signal already asserted. The current
> data phase completes but according to rule 3 I have to keep
> STOP# asserted until the master completes the last data phase
> and the transaction by deasserting FRAME#.
>
> The reason I bother is that I must not rely on the master to
> deassert its FRAME# signal on the first clock of the last data
> phase. Therefore, if I don't want to violate rule 3, I must be
> able to react to a PCI signal within one clock cycle (deassertion
> of STOP# and DEVSEL# upon the deassertion of FRAME#). In all
> other transactions I want to support in my target design in a
> rather slow device I would not have to do that.
>
> Question: Can anyone imagine any problems if I signal a disconnect,
> when the master has its IRDY# already asserted, and
> blindly deassert STOP# and DEVSEL# on the second clock
> following the data phase terminated with a disconnect?
>
> Christian Huter
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Christian,
Yes, I can see a two problems.
1) The last data phase will not complete. A data phase completes with
IRDY# asserted and either TRDY# asserted or STOP# asserted. The master
will wait until the target asserts either TRDY# or STOP#. This is the
case you have to worry about.
2) Deasserting DEVSEL# at the wrong time may cause some masters to see the
transaction as a master abort (ie DEVSEL# response has timed out). This
is not as much of a problem as 1.
The handshake protocols are there for a reason. If you don't follow
them, you may end up crashing the PCI bus or locking up a master.
Tom
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Tom Hicks Fore Systems
Design Engineer 174 Thorn Hill Rd
Adapter Group Warrendale, PA 15086
thicks@fore.com
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