RE: about Intel's FW21154-BE

["Phipps, Michael" <michael.phipps@intel.com>]

Hmmm... got this message twice?

I have not seen a date for releasing a new datasheet.  That will come from
the Bridge business unit. I can ask. You do have the right numbers for the
latest published documents.

I didn't want to stir up anything here and this forum is not a place to do
customer support or drum up business. Just thought I could help with a few
pointers.  Support should come through an Intel rep or distributor.  Contact
me off line, i.e. not via the PCI SIG, if you are having a problem making
that contact.

	Mike Phipps
	Intel Corp.

-----Original Message-----
From: wamnet [mailto:wamnet@gte.net]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:19 PM
To: Phipps, Michael
Cc: 'Angel Guirao Elias'; pci-sig@znyx.com
Subject: Re: about Intel's FW21154-BE

Are you releasing a new datasheet soon? The current one on
developer.intel.com shows the following date and doc number:

	Order Number: 278108-002 July 1999

And the diff doc's I got from Arrow/Wyle and my Intel rep (Third Wave in
the DC metro area) is:

	Order Number: 278395-002  dated June 2001.

I have a design I'm currently working on that has 8 21154's on it. 

As to contacting the disty, they laid off all of Arrow's Intel FAE's
since all they are allowed to register is the bridges and MAC/PHY's. I
was lucky in that Third Wave picked him up to support Intel. 

Intel pulled all the support for IXP's and other semi's from the
distributors. And Arrow is no small player...

Sad, since the design wins usually come form the disty network...
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"Phipps, Michael" wrote:
> 
> One of my jobs here at Intel is to support the 21154.  I have not heard of
> discussion by any people reporting errors concerning REQ64# now or several
> months ago.
> 
> Errata for all bridges are reported in:
> 
> http://developer.intel.com/design/bridge/specupdt/
> 
> If you have pointers to the discussions you refer to I will be glad to see
> that it gets attention. Now that you have run out of the BC part have you
> tried the BE? If you don't have one to try contact your local Intel rep or
> distributor. You shouldn't need to spin your PC board to make that change.
> 
> An app note that explains the differences are in:
> 
> http://developer.intel.com/design/bridge/applnots/278395.htm
> 
> If you have problems, contact your local Intel person or your distributor.
> 
>         Mike Phipps
>         Intel Corp.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angel Guirao Elias [mailto:angel.guirao.elias@cern.ch]
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:32 AM
> To: pci-sig@znyx.com
> Subject: about Intel's FW21154-BE
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
>    I'd like to ask you for some references about the transparent bridge
> Intel FW21154-BE.
> 
>    I remind it was subject of discussion some months ago, with several
> people reporting errors (one of them, i.e., concerning the REQ64# line).
> 
>    And a replacement was also suggested, the HINT's pin-compatible (HB2).
> 
>    My point is that I've run out of the "good" old BC revision, and I
> should purchase new ones. (Of course, out of question to change the
pcb...).
> 
>    Does anybody try with the HB2? Have someone reported more errors with
> Intel's?
> 
>     Thanks in advance for your time and help.
>     Best regards,
> 
>                     Angel
> 
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